Curse

Matsumi · May 03, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

I totally agree with kvndoom, nicely put.

Even through all the farming I've done in this game, I still don't buy ridiculously priced weapons or mods from other players. I'm happy with my collector's weapons with crappy mods I find, and continue to sell junk to the merchant so I can afford 15k armor for all my characters. But it would be nice to see a good rare weapon drop with some perfect mods on it or something, or a superior absorbtion (which I still have yet to get). If it destroys your "booming economy", good, maybe the bots will go away.

/still not signed

Guinevere Ac · May 03, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

/notsignet.
drops are good as they are now. the previous perfect drop rate was insane and i'm sorry if u are full o perfect items because u're loosing A LOT.
it's a game to play, not to farm man

Lord Cooper · May 03, 2006, 11:03 AM // 11:03

/not signed

the only people complaining are the rich kids who suddenly find that their shiny uber rare whatever isnt such a status symbol anymore.. all of a sudden they realise that they arent as l33t as the perceived themselves to be and they dont like it.

shame

/not signed

Snowman · May 03, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

/notsigned

How pathetic and selfish.

The only people who want less gold drops are those who want to make more money and fuel their own greed.

NinjaKai · May 03, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09

/Not Signed

/Sarcasm On

Oh your right. Any game that keeps the prices in its economy low must be really wrong. I mean it just wouldn't be fair if everyone could afford perfect items.

/Sarcasm Off

teh_noob_pwner · May 03, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

/Signed

Perfect drop ratios should have decereased instead of increased there are so many...just look at the high end forums.
Also they are so hard to sell your inventory becomes full since they are so common

mighty xxl · May 03, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

/notsigned

Many ppl say that PvE is ruined cause of the increase of gold items drop. I must correct u: PvE FARMING is in decline maybe

PvE is not ruined at all - all those new missions to play will fill my time for weeks now.

As for others that say that Arena Net ruined them cause of items prices drop - get on ur feet mans! So what? Life, pardon me, GAME still goes on

I also have rare items that have dropped in price - SO WHAT? They are customized anyway

I don't really care how rich i am anymore... I had FoW armour when few ppl could afford it, i have a collection of req8 15%>50 hammers, my pride and joy (all customized) and most of all i have a lot of FRIENDS. If u like to have like tons of golds, stacks of ectos, zounds of fellblades so that ONLY u feel special... u get no sympathy from me

Elrodien · May 03, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

/notsigned

Only the greedy want to keep the present system to preserve the prices of their HoD swords (oops how much are they worth now?? - nothing? Ouch).

This was a move by Anet to stop the silly prices for items and a move I welcome. Anet have done a Robin Hood on ya ass!

Hunter Sharparrow · May 03, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Absolutely /Notsigned

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How pathetic and selfish.

The only people who want less gold drops are those who want to make more money and fuel their own greed.

Well said.

So rather than make items more available to the normal player (what anet wants) you want the items more rare so you either have to spend your whole time farming a location to find one or aquire the obscene amount of gold to buy one from (again) someone who farmed for it. All so you rich players can get more rich? I know what this is, your rich but your losing your fortune and you want to get it back but now you realize how much harder it is with the updates that have been made.

For those that say they want it to give them something to strive for when they did everything else, that's why anet put in repeatable quests and very expensive FoW armor.

Mr Wolfmaster · May 03, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15

/not signed

I like the gold drops now, so what if stuff is worth less? That's the way it's gonna be. No one said there always had to be items in the econamy that are worth 20k++++ And I'd have to agree, a lot of the people (I didn't say all of the people so don't misquote me) who are signing this are most likely rich in gold drops/raw cash themselves.

hyro yamaguchi · May 03, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

/signed

Indeed, I never get any perfect weapons, and I don't want to, only those who are willing to farm a lot should be rewarded with that kind of stuff, and not your average "Oh look at me I found a key during this mission and now I'm opening this chest hihi" kind of person.

WasAGuest · May 03, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35

/notsigned

A question though, and not meant as a sarcastic question either:

What did we think would happen when Anet brought PvP and PvE closer?

Better drops must be more common for the sake of balance, other wise the entire skill over time becomes nothing.

Collector items still have to be modded with the perfect to near perfect mods. Green items still must be either farmed for or farmed to be purchased. The change I'm seeing take place removes a good deal of the time needed to get those items so the players can get into the competition.

From what I read in the forums here, the entire pace of Factions is to throw the players into the competition as quickly as possible. A side effect of that is to make sure they have the equipment to do so.

Side note: I don't PvP and this information is simply from in game chat; but it makes since.

Theus · May 03, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

/notsigned

We could get perfect items in the first place through collectors..

the original poster and others who complain are simply farmers who are whining how they can no long get "teh ubar lewts" and increase their electronic penis size.

Please.

Starsky-sama · May 03, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Theus

the original poster and others who complain are simply farmers

/agrees. sounds like it.

/I consider myself a farmer. it's not bothering me....

1st: we had good rare drops rate....(complained?)....fixed.
2nd: we had less rare drops rate....(complained)....fixed.
(now)3rd: we still have less than normal rare drop rates....(now complained bcuz of its stats...)....plz leave it...it's fine now...IMO.

/unsignage!

Hunter Sharparrow · May 03, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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I just wish all these fabulous non-max perfect items would actually f*cking salvage to something other than crafting materials!

Agreed

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Indeed, I never get any perfect weapons, and I don't want to, only those who are willing to farm a lot should be rewarded with that kind of stuff, and not your average "Oh look at me I found a key during this mission and now I'm opening this chest hihi" kind of person.

wow, just when I thought I heard it all. Either your lying or you simply don't have a clue on anets views of farming as well as the negetive impact repetitive farming has on the games economy. This impact that DOES affect the way others play including yourself. why should a bunch of greedy people who merely exploit weaknesses in the design of the game ruin it for the rest of us who just want to do the quest and be able to aquire these rare items atleast once for ourselves in the run of the game. As in find these rare items atleast once after taking a character through the game doing every mission, bonus and quest available. Even doing the repeatable ones more than once as inteanded when everything else is done. Anet has made the changes so this happens more often now. If it lowers the value of said item then good. Now if by some chance you don't find one yourself, you will be able to buy one with the money that one gets by playing the game normally.

Stockholm · May 03, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

/signed

Well finally Hunter Sharparrow must be happy, he got everything he's asked for in one go. Well done ANET you'v made one person happy and pissed off about one million others. BUT Hunter is happy LOL

Hunter Sharparrow · May 03, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

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Well finally Hunter Sharparrow must be happy, he got everything he's asked for in one go. Well done ANET you'v made one person happy and pissed off about one million others. BUT Hunter is happy LOL

Nevermind I was wrong. Now I've heard everything. How ignorant can you get? I think you topped it right there. Well I counted 40 /notsigned not including mine and I didn't count those that didn't say either way since I really don't want or need to read their post to get their oppinion just to prove a point. Those 40 make up over half the number of total posts (including the ops).

I'm merely a voice for many. I sometimes ask people who share the same views as myself why they don't post anything on the forums. They tell me one of two things; They do (just not on the Guru forums) or they say that when they have the forums only seem to be full of people who would rather just farm and so they play the game hoping anet will do something rather than waste their breath talking to a bunch of narrow minded individuals. I just say to them to ignore those people because anet has their views and goals and do watch the forums for ideas that will help them achive them.

4runner · May 03, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Stockholm · May 03, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

You can quote ANET as much as you want, but I know for a fact that there is petitions being sent to NC-SOFT to step in and put a stop to all this nerfing, by ppl from all over the world not just US and EU, that have put a lot of time in to this game and now see there hard earnd rewards gone, ppl have worked for what they have, yes a few made a killing on some economy changes (THANKS TO ANET). NO IT'S TIME FOR NC TO STEP IN AND MAKE SOME GROUND RULES. Other wise reset the whole economy to zero and take away all rare weapons and rare crafting materials in storages and let the game start over. And you would still end up on the short end off the stick Hunter, because you expect everything to be handed too you.

Loralai · May 03, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

/signed

Don't completely change it. It did need a tweek here and there, however, I think it has gone over the top. The hunt for perfect weapon drops was always a thrill for me, now it has been reduced to "wonder what perfect mod/weapon I will get from opening this chest." That was a goal for me as a PvE'r. Yes, maybe I'm shallow, but it was part of the fun for me..since removed.